Gaming Outpost Discussions

1. 

   M. J. Young
   Moderator

   The packmother looks a bit uncomfortable.

   "I beg your pardon to speak freely," she says, "but I do not think of wizards as men. I know that you are as human as those in the villages, but your knowledge makes you different. I also know that not all wizards would treat us as friends. Some would reject us in the name of humans, some would attack us in the name of vampires, and some would enslave us in their own names.

   "As you say, humans are weak and easily enslaved. I would have to believe that there were humans who were not wizards who were willing and able to fight against the vampires before I could agree to collaborating with them.

   "But I think I like the idea, if you can find such men."

   --M. J. Young

   Thu Sep 2 2010 4:05 am #
2. 

   Jhiaxus
   Member

   *smiles*

   "What you say is true, most humans are weak, but they are also strong. I am sure that there are humans out there that will want to work together to protect themselves. That's the reason we start cells, we train them cell by cell, so no one cell knows of the others. They know they exist, but can provide no information about them. Sure they will all know myself, Geneice and Merlin, but they already know we are going to fight them."

   *smiles*

   "Let us work on finding and training them, once we have enough, give us a way to contact you and you can see for yourself. An organization like this usually grows itself. Once one group of humans starts doing it, you can't stop them from starting others. It is self perpetuating that way. We won't be here forever, but we can leave a lasting legacy and give people here a chance against the undead. They would also need to see not all supernatural beings are there to hurt them. If they see your kind interacting with them, helping them giving them needed information, it will go a long way to building the trust and bonds that will be needed. I am well suited for such work, To pick out and train those of the right skills and mindsets, Geneice is as well. We spent years doing a job similar to that."

   Adam

   Thu Sep 2 2010 10:24 am #
3. 

   M. J. Young
   Moderator

   "Then we leave it to you to find the humans. To find us, find any wolf in the forest and ask for me by name; I will get the message and come to you." She gives you her name.

   --M. J. Young

   Sat Sep 4 2010 2:42 am #
4. 

   Jhiaxus
   Member

   *smiles and thinks back to his case of super soldier serum he has*

   "Well Merlin, I have a plan we just need to learn how to Teleport ourselves as well as the wolves, and how to create exact permanent copies of an object. I have a serum that can make a human to the peak of physical form, improve their mental functions as well. We just need to find four people per village, make sure they believe and committed to the cause. We should also find a way to magically bless the imbiber of the potion to be immune to being made into a Ghoul and from undead mental control. Then we could trust these Rangers, they would have a fighting chance against the undead, and make perfect knight when and if the time comes."

   *grins*

   "As for choosing them, I think simple observation, dropping hints of supernatural in conversation and seeing how they react is the best way to start."

   Adam

   Sat Sep 4 2010 10:34 am #
5. 

   M. J. Young
   Moderator

   Merlin nods, clearly impressed with your thoughts.

   "Copying a magic potion is a lot more difficult than, say, an herbal remedy or a flagon of ale; the magical properties are not really in the physical formulation. However, we can probably find a way to do that."

   "The wolves all teleport, and that's their advantage. As far as I know, they do it in much the same way we do, by bringing into focus in their mind a unique place to which they wish to travel and walking the twilight to get there. Some of them are very good at it, and most of the rest rely on the best to get them where they need to be. So the best way to become that good is to practice that much."

   "Four per village? That will be simple enough in some places, but there are villages in which fewer than a dozen people live in the village. There are, of course, farmers and shepherds scattered around them who consider that the center of their community, but some of them won't see the village save on Sunday. But I understand your sense: a few people in each of many places."

   "I don't know that we can guarantee immunity to someone, but I think that becoming a ghoul is a temptation, that is, no one is forced to become a ghoul and no one can become a ghoul without choosing to seek the power and immortality of the undead. That is a risk in your plan generally, though--will we be able to recognize those who will not be tempted to seek that power, and particularly not tempted to seek it once they have had a taste of the power you are offering? But that's something we'll have to do our best with. As to mind control, we can make them more resistant, but again there is no absolute guarantee on that, only an increased strength to fight against it."

   "So, it seems we have a few tasks to tackle--developing a few spells, copying your potion, and finding the right first group. Do you want us to tackle these in order, or split up and each take a task?"

   --M. J. Young

   Sun Sep 5 2010 8:11 pm #
6. 

   Jhiaxus
   Member

   *considers what Merlin says*

   "Well 4 is the number for most, some will be small, for bigger cities, 4 per district."

   *pauses*

   "Split it up, Merlin why don't you come up with the spells, Geneice work on copying the serum, and I will work on getting the right first group together. It will be a lot of work up front, but the end result should be a self perpetuating organization of resistance against the undead."

   Adam

   Tue Sep 7 2010 12:56 pm #
7. 

   M. J. Young
   Moderator

   "Very good, then. I guess we'll split up now, and we'll see you back at the glade whenever you're ready to return," Merlin says.

   "Take care of yourself," Geneice adds, and then telepathically, Keep in touch.

   --M. J. Young

   Wed Sep 8 2010 3:00 am #
8. 

   Jhiaxus
   Member

   *smiles and nods* "I'll have Horace with me watching from the sky looking for villages and towns, so should be easy to navigate from one to another."

   *to Geneice*

   "I will" *telepathically* "I will, I love you hun"

   *sets out on the road, heading to the south, wanting to hit the southern coast since he is close, and work his way west*

   ((Did the vampires or ghouls have any gear of note?))

   Adam

   Wed Sep 8 2010 10:31 am #
9. 

   M. J. Young
   Moderator

   One of the vampires was carrying a pouch in which were a handful of mostly small coins but some silver and gold, and a few mid-value gem stones. It would be enough to pay off peasants and guards, perhaps, and you could pay for several nights in good inns with it, but these creatures were a raiding party and brought clubs and staves and little else but the rags on their backs.

   You head for the south. Horace flies high, and he can see the distant sea but it is more than a day's walk from where you are.

   --M. J. Young

   Thu Sep 9 2010 2:43 am #
10. 

    Jhiaxus
    Member

    *will take the pouch with me probably needing the cash*

    *If he doesn't see any civilization, will head to the sea and start with the plan above and looking for a port town*

    Adam

    Thu Sep 9 2010 10:10 am #
11. 

    M. J. Young
    Moderator

    Night falls as you travel. There is a fortress of some sort further south, but your estimation based on Horace's birds-eye view is that it is still a few hours on.

    --M. J. Young

    Fri Sep 10 2010 1:38 am #
12. 

    Jhiaxus
    Member

    *I will find a place to sleep for tonight, I didn't bring my tent, but I did bring a bedroll, before going to bed, will cast my protection against undead ritual so that I do not have to worry about them when I sleep, in the morning will continue to the fortress*

    Adam

    Fri Sep 10 2010 10:33 am #
13. 

    M. J. Young
    Moderator

    To perform the ritual I found on your sheet, you need four ounces (a half cup) of blood from a living creature plus enough oil to make a complete circle around the area being protected.

    I suspect that you'll have to confirm having the oil based on your equipment, since it would be a reasonable provision if you have reason to have it; I'll want to know the source of the blood. Or am I looking at the wrong spell?

    --M. J. Young

    Sat Sep 11 2010 2:16 am #
14. 

    Jhiaxus
    Member

    Nope right spell, I will use my own blood, get the four ounces needed, do my magical healing to heal myself. I know we picked up oil in Camelot, a good amount for various uses.

    Adam

    Sat Sep 11 2010 3:42 pm #
15. 

    M. J. Young
    Moderator

    I am concerned about your method of drawing your own blood, particularly as a botch could be serious in such a circumstance. I'm examining your sheet and have found a couple of implements and a couple of tech skills which might be used for this. I'm assuming that you're not going to shoot yourself and that the laser in your watch (assuming you could get it working right) would cauterize and not bleed a wound. I'm also assuming that bod-based weapon skills are not directly adaptable to what is in essence a medical procedure. I also note that you have a number of skills in what we would identify as medical research but I don't have a listing for first aid or medical treatment (if it were there at a high enough bias level, you could use an arrowhead even at a penalty to create the desired wound). Drawing a half cup of blood is not something you can easily do from a finger prick; we're talking about a serious opening of a vein.

    I'm granting the container and that you can estimate the quantity accurately enough (or more precisely I'm assuming that your success roll will determine whether you got everything right enough). And I agree on the oil, so it's really only the blood that matters. You certainly can use your own blood, but being mindful that components exist to limit skill use I want to be certain that you can get your own blood without killing yourself in the process.

    So, skill and equipment to be used for this.

    Thanks.

    --M. J. Young

    Sun Sep 12 2010 9:11 pm #
16. 

    Jhiaxus
    Member

    Eh not worth the trouble, will just use alert rest, back to the story.

    Adam

    Mon Sep 13 2010 12:18 pm #
17. 

    M. J. Young
    Moderator

    You manage to get some rest. Horace is a bit antsy, and the woods are filled with sounds, and it's been a while since you were alone; but you relax and find your center, and after a few hours you are reasonably refreshed.

    --M. J. Young

    Tue Sep 14 2010 2:17 am #
18. 

    Jhiaxus
    Member

    *share some Jerky with Horace, I will assume to have this as I am not adverse with bartering with the inn at Camelot for dried meat for Horace and myself for the road, picking up my bedroll, packing up*

    *preening Horace's feathers when he is perched on my arm*

    "Your a good friend, you help me out and are always there, and I appreciate all that you do for me, once again, will need your eyes. If you see a tasty morsel, take your time, eat, drink, we will be fine."

    *lets him fly off his arm as he heads toward the fortress*

    Jhiaxus

    Tue Sep 14 2010 10:35 am #
19. 

    M. J. Young
    Moderator

    After enjoying the jerky, Horace heads toward the fortress; you follow the road afoot.

    By midday you are within sight of the battlements, and Horace is returning. The images he recalls are of carnage--the front gate smashed and a few bodies within dismembered and showing signs of having been eaten. There was no movement within the bailey.

    --M. J. Young

    Tue Sep 14 2010 11:17 pm #
20. 

    Jhiaxus
    Member

    *sighs*

    "Well still need to check it out, maybe I can adjust the plan, if there is an empty fortress, maybe instead of me going all through England, we can have England come to me."

    *heading there, sword in one hand, FN-57 in the other, and make my way inside to see if there is anything to evict and or kill*

    Adam

    Wed Sep 15 2010 12:59 am #
21. 

    M. J. Young
    Moderator

    You reach the castle before noon, and find the front gate broken open by sheer force.

    The carnage is a mere two or three days old; scavenger birds are picking at the bodies still. Despite the damage they have done, it is evident that this is the work of ghouls killing and devouring the occupants of the castle, assisted by vampires. It is likely that the party you killed made a pit stop here.

    No one is alive, but there are some horses penned in the stables who have not been tended for a few days.

    --M. J. Young

    Thu Sep 16 2010 6:40 am #
22. 

    Jhiaxus
    Member

    *sighs*

    *I will feed, water and clean the stables of the horses, and gather the bodies up in a pile, if there is a noble dressed among them, I will keep his separate. I will gather wood for a funeral pyre, and do a search through the keep to make sure there aren't any new vampires or ghouls here. Once I am satisfied that the coast is clear, I will gather the weapons and armor, clean them and put them back in the armory and take stock of just how big this place is and formulate a new plan.*

    *I will try to telepathically contact my wife*

    "Hello Geneice, I am at a fortress south of Camelot, the vampires and ghouls sacked it. I think I have a new plan. I think I will have us make this the base of operations where we train these people. We'll call it The Stonefist Academy for Martial Tradition. We can then watch the recruits and take select ones from there, and form the subgroup Rangers from them, and send them one at a time to their new "homes". We do this slow getting new recruits in, training them, sending certain ones out, so that they don't know who is a part of the Stonefist, and who is part of the Rangers. It also allows us to build an elite fighting force as a whole, aside from the Rangers. I will try to teleport back to the grove tonight, once I made this place familiar enough to teleport back here when I need to."

    Adam

    Thu Sep 16 2010 1:06 pm #
23. 

    M. J. Young
    Moderator

    You find the bodies of what might be the elderly king and his middle-aged son amongst the fighters in the front hall, and among the women are one who might have been the queen and two perhaps her daughters, although it is not always easy to identify the nobles from their knights or serving women in such situations. There are none that you would expect will return from the dead apart from Ragnorak, although it is clear the men fought bravely and you have some hope some of them might fight beside you there. There is a crypt beneath the chapel, but the bodies there have clearly decayed to dust, and you've never encountered an undead skeleton in this world.

    The vampires broke into the treasure room and removed some of the treasure, and it was not so wealthy a kingdom as that the remainder is that impressive, but it is enough to run such a castle for many years.  The village below is a smouldering ruin; the vampires apparently burned that after they had finished here. The flocks are scattered across the common and getting into the crops, but it would take more manpower than you've got to put all that in order.

    Geniece asks whether "knightly" would be a better word; "martial" is so Roman. Otherwise she approves the plan. She notes that Merlin probably won't come with you, but that might be just as well, as he should be training Arthur fairly soon, and the two of you should probably get out of his way.

    --M. J. Young

    Mon Sep 20 2010 12:06 am #
24. 

    Jhiaxus
    Member

    *grins as he hears her talk back*

    "You are right dear, but we are more like assassins than knights. I suppose it's just semantics, we are going to teach them what they need to know to fight them. This world needs commandos more than knights, but that's what we are here for. As for Merlin your right, we are going to be on our own soon enough. I need you to hire 30 people from Camelot, we need people to tend the animals, grow food, take care of the place. There is money here to run it for years, and between the treasure we got from the other vampires, we should be good. Five of the people I want to be warriors, we need to train the first class, and get them to teach to gather others. I love you my pumpkin."

    *I will start digging graves manually, I don't want to risk magic. I will look for pictures to separate the nobles, from the others, but will try to gatherer all their names from personal belongings, looks like I have a lot of work to do here before she comes, cleaning up, making grave markers, trying to get the animals under control*

    Adam

    Mon Sep 20 2010 2:38 am #
25. 

    M. J. Young
    Moderator

    A couple hours later she contacts you again.

    "You should be ready to answer questions about how you came to be Lord of the Castle. You may be Lord Ashe Valerin of the Stonefist, and I Lady Jade Bladesong of the Stonefist, but someone is sure to know who was in that castle before we arrived."

    She promises to find you within the week, with at least some new workers.

    --M. J. Young

    Tue Sep 21 2010 2:33 am #
26. 

    Jhiaxus
    Member

    *nods* "Lest you forget my love, I am part of the line of Arthur. With no king, I am just steward over the castle, and the matter will be settled when a new king crowned. Since we have an in with the future king, I won't let a castle so close to Camelot fall under the control of undead, or left to rot. The needs of the many of this world, will outweigh the needs of the few. There should be enough paperwork here to familiarize myself with the lineage, and insert myself in a proper place as to avoid scrutiny to that point."

    *doing what he can to make this place not a sight of a massacre before the wife and workers arrive*

    Adam

    Tue Sep 21 2010 2:52 am #
27. 

    M. J. Young
    Moderator

    My recollection is that the front gate (into the outer bailey) was smashed. The inner castle doors (into the fort proper) are also broken. Other damage is relatively minor, but you have the bodies to bury and/or burn and a substantial amount of decaying gore to remove. The bodies are attracting carrion birds and making the horses uncomfortable.

    All of this is to ask what you are prioritizing. Did you want to fix either the outer or inner doors first, or are you going to await the arrival of Geneice' crew to have them address these problems and figure you can handle the defenses if anything comes before then? You're looking at several days work, at least, to do it all yourself, remembering that you also have to make sure the horses are all maintained in some way and feed yourself (and Horace, although he can probably feed himself if you prefer) in the process.

    --M. J. Young

    Tue Sep 21 2010 11:01 pm #
28. 

    Jhiaxus
    Member

    *Bodies first, I'm not worried about the doors, feeding the horses, gore cleaning, I will ask Horace to please feed himself, and will um fix food for myself, to make my job easier will use the dig spell to dig the graves, at least to move the earth out, I will have to separate each grave, but getting the dirt out will save a significant amount of time I can devote to other areas of the cleanup*

    *looks at the doors one last time*

    "I pity the fool(s) who try to storm this keep with me here, I am in no mood for games."

    Adam

    Tue Sep 21 2010 11:39 pm #
29. 

    M. J. Young
    Moderator

    It takes most of the rest of the day to deal with the bodies; dusk is definitely upon you as you finish the task, but it is finished.

    I'm assuming you're going to use your 3@9 Alert Rest B10@2 rather than sleeping, assuming it succeeds. Are you going to be in the courtyard or within the keep itself, or somewhere else?

    --M. J. Young

    Mon Sep 27 2010 3:59 am #
30. 

    Jhiaxus
    Member

    *I will do alert rest, I will be behind the broken gate in case anyone is unwise enough to enter*

    Adam

    Mon Sep 27 2010 10:29 am #
31. 

    M. J. Young
    Moderator

    You settle in and center your mind and body for a period of alert rest, and quickly move into that state in which reality is crisp around you yet you are totally relaxed and not thinking.

    The darkness is broken by an early setting moon which gives way to stars; but it is enough light that you see the four figures come through the gate.

    "Are you sure it's safe?" one of them whispers hoarsely.

    "Safe? You want safe?" another mocks. "Study for the priesthood."

    "You know what I mean."

    "I know what he means. We don't know who attacked this castle or busted down the gates--didn't see no armies with battering rams--but someone powerful did it, and it don't make no sense for them to bust open the castle and leave it undefended."

    "I tell you, there's been no one here for a couple days. I been watching it. One guy was nosing around earlier today, prob'ly a priest or something, was trying to bury the dead. If he's a priest, he wasn't looking for no treasure, right?"

    "I dunno. I've known some priests who were pretty keen on getting me to part with my treasure."

    "Yeah, but not one as would bury the dead first, right?"

    "Maybe. So he left?"

    "Musta done, right? Who would sleep in a place that had been busted open like a egg?"

    --M. J. Young

    Tue Sep 28 2010 5:05 am #
32. 

    Jhiaxus
    Member

    *smiles*

    *using move silently, getting to my feet and getting behind them*

    "The person who would sleep in here would be me, and since you aren't vampires or ghouls, and are stupid enough to wander around at night, you must be down on your luck. Yes there is a vast amount of treasure here, no I am not a priest, I just respect people who gave their lives in battle. I offer you a deal, there is treasure here, if the four of you can beat me, your welcome to it. I will be unarmed, if you four lose, since I am sparing your lives, the boon I ask is to stay here, and be trained to become people who do not need to live their lives as scavengers. It's the best deal you will get, and since I'm confident I can beat all four of you at once with my bare hands, you will once I determine your outlook has changed, be able to do the same yourselves."

    *pauses*

    "I am Ashe Valerin of the Stonefist, come at me."

    *getting into Ku Fung, Doing disarm weaponless if they are armed, immobilizer when they are disarmed, basically not looking to kill them, just show them how outclassed they are, I am happy to play the entire combat out, defenses I think I will only need Panaramic Awareness and Muscle Blocking up, I don't think Missile weapons will be an issue*

    Adam

    Tue Sep 28 2010 10:35 am #
33. 

    M. J. Young
    Moderator

    They visibly jump when your voice comes from behind them; one of them says one word we won't print here.

    You make your speech.

    "Ashe Valerin of the Stonefist, ay? O.K., let's see what you've got," the seemingly brave one says, stepping forward a pace and raising his fists--and then running toward the open front of the inner keep. His companions are caught flat-footed for about a second, but are off in his wake before you know it.

    --M. J. Young

    Wed Sep 29 2010 1:40 am #
34. 

    Jhiaxus
    Member

    *shakes his head and does a great leap to block the doorway of the inner keep and socks the brave one in the jaw with no style, no +DC, just a regular old punch*

    "That's a good way to end up with an arrow in your back, absolutely pathetic, if there are a sadder excuse for men in all of England, I would be hard pressed to find them. So are we going to fight, or are you just going to sit there and bleed?"

    Adam

    Wed Sep 29 2010 2:12 am #
35. 

    M. J. Young
    Moderator

    You easily leap past them and cut them off at the pass, landing a jaw-jarring blow to the apparent leader, who is stopped in his tracks.

    The others are a bit, well, terrified.

    "Beggin' your pardon, my lord, we din't mean to trespass on the claim of a wizard. I don't think I could fight someone who can use magic like that."

    He seems very nervous about his situation.

    --M. J. Young

    Thu Sep 30 2010 5:14 am #
36. 

    Jhiaxus
    Member

    *sighs*

    "That was not magic, that was training my legs to jump really far, I do know magic that can accomplish the same feat. I am human flesh and blood, and I really am not the person you should be worried about. The things that did this to this castle and its people are what you should be worried about. 23 beings killed and savaged every single living person in this keep. I need help, you guys look like you need someone to offer you help. I offer you a chance to be better than you are now, to be in a position to help each other, and move beyond petty thievery. I am not a priest, I am a warrior, and I seek to train other warriors to fight the darkness of the night. The real treasure here is the opportunity I am offering, not some trinkets or gold."

    *pauses*

    "My wife is bringing workers to help run this place, I need men to help make this place decent enough so that we can begin work to rebuild and make this place suitable for training. If you help, you four can be the first ones, who carry the training to others. There is a darkness out there, and the only way to stop it is to be prepared. I am Ashe Valerin of the Stonefist, there is my offer, decide if you want to work together for something better, or brave the darkness and find the creatures that did this, your call."

    Adam

    Thu Sep 30 2010 10:18 am #
37. 

    M. J. Young
    Moderator

    Hesitantly, one of them asks, "Are you--are you offering to train us as knights?"

    The question seems to boggle them, as if they can't imagine that this would be possible.

    --M. J. Young

    Sat Oct 2 2010 10:19 pm #
38. 

    Jhiaxus
    Member

    *smiles*

    "Knights of a different order, but yes, it's the closest thing to what it is. I am not worried about nobility or backrounds. I need men and women, yes women who want to learn how to defend yourselves and others. My wife is just as powerful and just as capable warrior as I am. We cannot fight the darkness alone, so we have made the decision to train others, to do more than 2 of us could do on our own."

    *pauses*

    "That will be once we get this place back up and running. If you help with the cleanup tomorrow, and repairing the gates, sleeping in beds with full stomachs isn't a far fetched notion.

    Adam

    Sat Oct 2 2010 10:27 pm #
39. 

    M. J. Young
    Moderator

    They look at each other, some of them muttering, almost arguing. Then the one who seems to be the leader says, "All right, we're your men. We'll help get the place in order, but we'll need some dinner before too long as we're not going to last long on empty stomachs. Should we begin with the front gate? You never know who or what might wander in." He smiles at this, knowing that he's made a joke, but his men don't seem to get it.

    --M. J. Young

    Sun Oct 3 2010 10:00 pm #
40. 

    Jhiaxus
    Member

    *grins a little*

    "Work on the front gates in the morning, and we'll check the pantry now, and see what we have. Luckily the creatures here were very unlikely to be concerned with eating, so we might be in luck.

    "The inside is not clean yet, so after that lets all head back out to behind the gate, and I will keep watch while I sleep, the rest of you can get some rest."

    *Will do my Alert Rest again*

    Adam

    Mon Oct 4 2010 10:40 am #
41. 

    M. J. Young
    Moderator

    As you expected, there is plenty of preserved food--salt pork, bacon, pickled vegetables, pickled meats, dried fruits and biscuit, plus beer, wine, and ale in the cellars. Your adopted brigands are definitely hungry and eager to feast.

    --M. J. Young

    Wed Oct 6 2010 5:11 am #
42. 

    Jhiaxus
    Member

    *smiles*

    "Ok guys calm down, gorging yourselves is not going to do us any good. This food has to last till we get this place to ship shape, and we can get crops, animals, and trade going. Everyone is getting a plate full of food, and we will share a bottle of wine. So we eat, we rest until morning behind the gates. Tomorrow we work on the gates, next day we clean the gore, and the day after, we round up the free roaming animals, and fix their pens. My wife should be back around that time with the help, and we can get to start the training."

    Adam

    Wed Oct 6 2010 10:11 am #
43. 

    M. J. Young
    Moderator

    Actually, wine in this milieu generally comes in casks, not bottles. Glass, where available, is considerably more costly than wine. Skins and earthen jugs with corks are also used, but it's cheaper by the cask.

    You get control of your brood, get them fed and settled in the courtyard, and pass the rest of the night without incident. However, you don't get back to your centered rest, and so spend several hours awake. You can push through until morning or go to sleep, as you prefer.

    --M. J. Young

    Thu Oct 7 2010 3:08 am #
44. 

    Jhiaxus
    Member

    *I will push through, I'm sure I will get it the following night, and I did get a few hours tonight. We will fix the gates today, and if that goes quickly, then the animal pens.*

    Adam

    Thu Oct 7 2010 3:10 am #
45. 

    M. J. Young
    Moderator

    It looks as if all the pieces for the gate are here, although some of the hinges and bolts are bent or torn and the iron-reinforced oak crossbar broke down the middle of its length. You can get the doors upright in their places, but you're going to have to fix the hinges to get them to support the weight of the heavy oak and iron doors when they swing freely. You can certainly keep the doors closed, but it will be difficult to secure them without a new or repaired crossbar.

    The portcullis was raised and jammed in a partly raised position apparently by bending the iron in the tracks.

    --M. J. Young

    Thu Oct 7 2010 11:29 pm #

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