JohnA1nut
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How long have I been in TerraNova Habitat? Has it been long enough for any kind of metal working increases? It would be instructed practice. What is that? Every 100 days at the 2@ level? Every 200 days? I should have acted that out. I would have had new uses out the ying yang. How long have I been here, anyway? The 23 day countdown we've had was after Lauren's arrival, but I've been in the world for over a year, in non-game time.
(Doing Therapy)
You forget that your blacksmithing skills increased since you arrived in this world, from working in the scrap yard. Gaining knowledge of the required temperatures for working with the metals with which you are already familiar is not a big deal.
I know which day the disaster happens; you don't know that there's going to be one. Thus I don't think either of us can change it at this point.
Day 23
You do get the book on snares.
Lauren teaches you how to take that force field skill and turn it into a small sharply edged force object which you can maneuver fairly quickly, as a targeted attack. The force is very close to invisible most of the time, although it does shimmer or glow a bit, as if it were hardened air. She fails to transfer the skill pattern to you, but gives you a pretty good idea how to take what you know and do this with it. Are you going to try it today, or let her try to imprint the pattern again tomorrow?
The store tells you that laser torches are much more in the line you want. They have the heat adjustments for the greater range, are lighter and more compact, and more easily recharged. They have hydrogen torches, which are relatively low heat used for soft metals such as solder, tin, gold, and copper, and they have carbon gas torches which are considerably higher heat for iron, steel, and other hard metals.
--M. J. Young
The book is rather comprehensive, covering a lot about survival in a wide variety of environs, not just the creation of simple snares. It includes primitive ways to test whether water is safe, whether plants or animals are edible, and much more. It is also made of plastic, which weighs slightly more than paper for the same volume. It is roughly one and a half inches thick, nine inches high and six inches wide, and weighs in at just about a pound.
CW is quite willing to give the match another try in your apartment, just as soon as he's finished his class with Derek. He'll meet you there.
--M. J. Young
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This is the Army tech manual on wilderness survival. I used to have that book. I know what is in it, and what it's all about, except that this one is undoubtedly more advanced.
"Cool CW, I'll be waiting."
Go back to the apartment and wait. No one moves until I call for go.
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MJ, next chance I get, I'm going to get that army tech manual on survival that I was talking about. It seems to be a slightly lower-tech version of what you just gave me, so it seems prudent to have, for informational purposes. Plus, it's just the kind of book a guy like me wants to have.....
Bevridge shows up about an hour later, and asks for his gloves. Donning them, he falls easily into stance.
"So, I've been thinking about your problem, and you seem to have trouble getting yourself focused on the fight. Stance is critical; we need to come up with ways to help you get there."
--M. J. Young
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After I'm finished getting plowed by this guy, search on the computer for a 3 sectioned, collapsible baton with a belt holder. Goes from 8 inches long to 2 feet long with a flick of the wrist. (You do know what I'm talking about, right?) I don't know why I wanted to try knife fighting. I couldn't do that if my life depended on it. A baton on the other hand... Just as deadly, and I would have no problem using it.
You've confused me. You have donned the gloves and said, "Let's dance," which suggests that you want the fight to begin; but you have also stated that "No one moves until I'm in form," and frankly you have not even stated that you are attempting to get into form, let alone how CW is supposed to know that you are except by virtue of the fact that you said, "Let's dance."
So I figure you forgot the part about saying you were getting into stance, which leaves me uncertain as to when you did that relative to when you said "Let's dance", and thus uncertain as to when CW is going to move.
As to the described baton, I can envision what you describe. I imagine that it would not be so heavy as a solid weapon would be, and that it would be unbalanced, more like a mace than a staff, but I'm sure we can "find" something that is similar in this world.
--M. J. Young
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Well, I assumed that "Let's Dance" would be sufficient to tell you that I'm getting into form, and that it's been established that no one moves until I'm in form. As my mom would say "When you assume, you make an ASS out of U and ME."
Get into form.
"CW, let me get into form here."
Once I'm in form
"Let's Dance."
Happy Now?
As to the described baton, I can envision what you describe. I imagine that it would not be so heavy as a solid weapon would be, and that it would be unbalanced, more like a mace than a staff, but I'm sure we can "find" something that is similar in this world.
A lot of cops carry these. It's 3 pipes basically. The last piece isn't solid. It goes from 8 inches long to 24 inches long with a snap of your wrist. Collapsible like a telescope, you hold the big end. They usually have a wrist lanyard so you don't drop it, and the end you grip is enhanced to make gripping easier. For all practical intents and purposes, it's a collapsible piece of steel pipe to beat someone with. Are you saying that I got one, or I found one and I just need to go get it? Also, how would that be used in a fight? It isn't really a skill to swing a club (or is it?)
You haven't been working there for a hundred days, so your skill ability levels at any such equipment would be from 1@1 to 1@3.
What I assumed from you telling me that your character says "Let's dance" is that your character is saying to someone else present that he is ready. That does not in any way tell me that he is getting ready. In fact, I've seen a character stand not ready, say go, and then respond to the incoming attack with a quick draw steal initiative and a parry followed by a strike, just for how impressive it looks. I did not think you wanted to do that, but you were not communicating what you were doing apart from what you were saying.
You both seem to be having trouble getting focused this time, but after a moment you are both ready.
"All right, show me what you've got." You move, and he hits you, not as fast as Lauren but faster and harder than you. You swing wild in response, and he goes for another hit but misses. He comes in again for a very light tap, and you land a good punch in response, and he returns the favor, with another painful punch.
You throw another which he barely avoids, and his next two swings are nowhere near you as consequence.
He taps you, though, on his next move, and you miss him, and he misses you.
You tap him, he taps you, and then hits you solidly again.
"Whoa," he says. "Catch your breath; that's five minutes. You're very good."
--M. J. Young
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"You're not too bad either dude. I think something snapped inside me there. All of a sudden, I feel like I could hit twice as hard and twice as often as before (going from 1@10 to 2@1 hahaha) Good match. You want to get something to drink and hang out for a few?"
Did I get the baton? Now that I think about it, that would be a skill. I remember a guy telling me about it. He was a security guard and carried one of these. He said there was a whole martial art designed around these types of collapsible batons. He showed me a few of the moves. Not enough to do them, but perhaps an example. Did I get the baton?
Yes, if you're working with metal, your ability to work with metal is 2@1, and assumes that you can find tools to do the job; the availability of tools can be a modifier to your chance of success. If you're trying to use the same tools for different applications, then you're looking at a lower SAL for tool use.
I did not yet address the baton question because I did not know if the fight was formally over.
Your weapons guy thinks he can get what you describe. In stock he has a fifteen inch weighted polymer club. The extended ones aren't as heavy and thus not as effective, so he doesn't stock them. He also is aware of a kinetic force version that extends what amounts to a force field to about two feet, but it's expensive, hard to get, and since the force has no weight it's more dependent on the wielder's strength and leverage. But he can order one for you, of either type.
--M. J. Young
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Ya know, I just had a thought. I'm a blacksmith with access to equipment that Mr. Smith could never imagine. Go back to work. I'm gonna build one. I'm still ordering that one, this one is more of a "Stay in practice" kind of thing. I believe you said that Mr. Smith wouldn't know how to make a pipe that even and straight (compared to a rifle barrel) so this might be a new use on blacksmithing. I'm using pipes though, not making them myself.
Ya know what? I just realized why we can't imagine God. It would be akin to Mr. Smith imagining the place where I am.
Start with about a 1 inch outside diameter pipe (OOC or whatever my character thinks will fit his hand) and go down from there. I want it snug, but not loose. Add resin or something to the outside of the pipes if need be, to get a good fit. Weld rings to the ends of the pipes, to make the telescope stops. Each piece 8 inches long. Add a half-twist turn cap at each joint. Only twists together when extended, to keep it from closing during a fight. Half twist required to open, as a safety precaution. Don't want it extending when setting in on a table, for instance. Some resistance (wrist snap) needed to open. Hence, putting resin on the pipes. Is any of this making sense?
I'd try to keep the weight down as much as possible. A pound at most. They're really not that heavy, my brother has one.
Sudden scenery change.
The extended ones aren't as heavy and thus not as effective, so he doesn't stock them.
I'm a bit confused by this. So he can get the 8-24 inch collapsible batons, but just doesn't have them in stock right now? Is that what that means? How long long would it take to get them?
"Oh yeah, and Mr. Weapons Dealer Guy. Does the one you're selling have the features I described in the above posting? (Twist to open, twists extended, etc.) I might just carry the one I'm going to build."
Are there any bonuses for making a serious attempt to do a really good job? I would be trying to build a weapon of quality here. Extra effort. Making my list and checking it twice, ya know. Any bonuses for that? I've also got a bonus blacksmithing prayer to use as well.
(Doing Therapy)
It can be ordered; it will take a few days.
The one in the catalog has an electromagnetic latching and release system, so it locks both closed and open automatically, unlocking with a push of the release button in the grip.
Are there any bonuses for making a serious attempt to do a really good job? I would be trying to build a weapon of quality here. Extra effort. Making my list and checking it twice, ya know. Any bonuses for that? I've also got a bonus blacksmithing prayer to use as well.
Technically to build a quality weapon you have to be professional at building that kind of weapon, and you've never built any weapon before. That puts me in a bit of a bind, because on the one hand you've got the 2@1 blacksmithing skills to make something like this, while on the other if you classed yourself a maker of such weapons you would probably be 1@10. However, let me recap requirements for making a weapon of quality:
What you are describing appears to me to have the following characteristics:
Four metal rings are required, plus two metal stoppers of some sort.
The second ring has an outside diameter equal to the inside diameter of the first pipe; it is secured to the back end of the second pipe, such that it, too, holds the second pipe perfectly centered inside the first. It is the function of these two rings that when the second pipe slides down inside the first, the second ring stops when its outside hits the inside of the first ring, and thus stops the pipe from falling out.
The third ring is to the second pipe what the first ring is to the first pipe. It also prevents the second pipe from passing the first ring and so falling inside the first pipe.
The fourth ring is to the third pipe what the second ring is to the second pipe.
The stopper on the bottom of the third pipe acts much as the third ring, preventing the third pipe from falling into the second.
The stopper on the top closes the back of the object, but has no mechanical function.
There must also be an interlocking function. Probably the first ring and third ring have meshing tabs such that a counter-clockwise twist from the perspective of the handle pushes these tabs together, and the same arrangement is present between the third ring and the bottom stopper. In this way, a sharp clockwise twist (the direction that would be natural cross-drawing it with the right hand) would probably release the two. However, there is not an obvious way to get them to lock in the open position.
You could go with the toy lightsaber design, in which each of the pipes is slightly tapered. The end would need some sort of pressure release cap. In this case, a good kinetic jolt would send the interior pipes toward the far end, but since they are tapered they would stick when the space narrowed sufficiently for them to become caught on the walls of the outer pipes. It would take a sharp tap on the front end to jar them back. This design, though, would rattle, as the inside pipes are loose when retracted.
Thoughts?
--M. J. Young
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Can I get 2@1 blacksmithing specializing in weapons? If that would drop all other blacksmithing to 1@10, forget it. You said something about a 1@10 build weapons skill, could I specialize in weapons as my main blacksmithing? I imagine weapons are going to be something I'll be making a lot. I did make those two silver knives, so weapons are something I've done. At the 3@ level, it would be specializing in blunt instrument weapons. (I couldn't use bladed weapons, it just scares me) Can something like that be done? This will be the 3rd weapon I've made since getting here, and the first silver knife represented my 4th new use, IIRC. Blacksmithing specializing in weapons. Could I make a weapon of quality then?
So are you saying that in order to make a weapon of quality, all of my rolls would need to be at least 51 but not a failure? How many rolls would it be, in an educated guess?
Actually, they all rattle, not just the lightsaber design. It's not that loud, and I was planning to use some manner of coating on the pipes, to take care of some of that. A little slick, but not too slick.
The thing with having it twist to lock open. If you make any kind of stabbing attack, they tend to close. Doesn't do you much good.
The electromagnetic lock on the Weapons Store Guy's baton. Does it need batteries? How is it powered? If it needs batteries of any kind, I'm sticking to the one I'm building. Besides, the lower tech, the better, if it does the exact same thing.
Are the pipes threaded on the ends? Can I get threaded pipes? I just thought perhaps cutting off most of the thread, and using the threads as well as welding to hold the rings onto the ends might reinforce it a little. If no threaded pipes, no big deal. It is possible that if the largest pipe is threaded, I would use a standard pipe end cap as opposed to welding one on.
Rather than bonus careful work, we penalize rushed work. This is not always the case, but is the general rule.
And now I'm forced to ask, can you make an exception? You said "This is not always the case". I don't think you understand MJ. This is something he's going to be trusting his life to. This is his on-person, extremely low tech melee weapon. He's going to get it right. He's going to make sure it's done perfectly. I think a bonus would be a possible exception, but you're the referee.
(Doing Therapy)
JohnA1nut
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"Mr. Weapons Dealer Guy, do you sell nylon or similar* belt holders which would hold one of these batons to hold the one I'm going to build?"
*Show him the pouch my Leatherman is in, black nylon mesh
Building it seems like a better choice, for some reason. Cancel the order for the other. No high tech collapsible baton, John is making it himself.
And even if it did collapse whilst you were using it, it would open back up the next time you swung.
(Doing Therapy)
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http://www.crimehalter.com/collapsiblebatons.html
They sell collapsible batons, if you're interested in seeing pictures and reading a little about them.
(Doing Therapy)
Since you did not specialize in weapon making when you were studying either under Mr. Smith nor here on TerraNova, you can't say that you specialized in it in your training and practice to this point. What you can do is focus future practice on developing weapon making skills, defining (somewhat narrowly) what type of weapons you are making (e.g., blunt weapons, axes/adzes/picks, polearms, swords and knives), and use your future practice to develop a 2@1 skill in weaponmaking of that type.
If you are making a weapon, there would be one roll made for whether you succeed in making a weapon. Failure means you made something clearly inadequate, success up to 50 would be a weapon of ordinary quality, and success of 51 or higher would be a quality weapon. A botch would be handled separately, but might be a hidden defect--a weapon that appears to have superior quality but fails at some future point.
Yes, an electromagnetic locking device needs batteries.
You would by now be able to add threading to a pipe without too much difficulty. They make tools for that, and you know how to use them.
But I'm not certain how that helps your design.
--M. J. Young
Second post.
Oh--I'm sure they can get you some kind of pouch for your baton. Just bring it in and they'll size it for you.
--M. J. Young
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Go back to my room and pray.
1@1 Bonus Blacksmithing/Metalworking Skill Checks M+1@4 retire to personal room or quarters, kneel with total body involvement, pray with appropriate words for forgiveness, wisdom, strength, and help with current task, 5:00TF, confers +20 on next major task attempted, +53SM
New use on that?
One roll which needs to be 51 but not a failure to make a weapon of quality? As I stated, my character is determined to do this right. If the roll is not 51 but not a failure, then my character won't be happy with the results, and it will go into the trash, and a new baton started from scratch. (What is "scratch" and how can everything be made from it?) This is my project. Everything else is unneeded. No martial arts training, no hanging out with Lauren, no nothing. It's work, then build the baton. If the roll is less than 51 but not a failure, he isn't happy, try again. (MJ, I sure hope you know how to roll a 51 on purpose....)
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Concerning lock washers, I always assume the other person doesn't have any idea what I'm talking about. Makes explaining things easier if they really don't. What I was referring to there though was that if you had those on the inside and outside of two of the pipes, (The split ring type) it would create the needed threads to give it the half twist lock open. A spot of weld or something inside that would prevent it from untwisting completely.
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Did I ever follow up on vehicles which would fold up and be easily carried? (On our world) I've seen a go-kart which folded into a briefcase, a bicycle which folded up, and I just saw a hot air balloon with a lawnmower engine. In a nutshell, powered neutral buoyancy. Whole thing looked like it would fit into a footlocker when stored. Did I ever follow up on that? Solar or muscle powered is preferred, but not required. Alcohol powered would work too. I can make alcohol.
Probably jumping the gun, but should I find an alcohol powered vehicle, get a book on whiskey distillation. A blacksmith could build a still with his eyes closed.
(Doing Therapy)
"From scratch" originated with racing, where a line was scratched in the ground at the beginning of the race and all the racers began from that line. It came from that to mean starting from the beginning, and thus in making things making them without any partially prepared ingredients.
I am not understanding why this prayer would be a new use.
I'm not certain how you would identify a good weapon from a weapon of quality, particularly as you have no skill in the use of the weapon in question. I can tell the difference between a cheap alto saxophone and a superior one (I've done so) by playing them (or by reading the labels, sometimes), but that's because I have skill in saxophone. Although I muddle through on trumpet, I doubt I could tell a good trumpet from a cheap one.
I am not understanding how the lock washers are supposed to accomplish your objective, unless you mean to bend them open sufficiently that they slide between each other. Both then would have an inside diameter equal to the outside diameter of the inner pipe and would have to be spot welded in such a way that the welds did not block the space of the opening or prevent them from meeting. Such welds would be inherently weaker, but it might work. Am I at least grasping what you're envisioning?
I remember you saying you wanted such a vehicle. A computer search reveals that there are hundreds of available designs which can be ordered by any of dozens of stores in the mall, including battery powered two- and three-wheeled collapsible vehicles, systems that use small internal combustion engines which burn a variety of hydrocarbon fuels (including alcohol) powering everything from a collapsible three-wheeler to a small ultralight aircraft, and other variants. Describe what you want, and we'll see how close you can come.
--M. J. Young
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I am not understanding why this prayer would be a new use.
Then it's not. I just had to ask. Either it was or it wasn't. I was just asking you.
I'm not certain how you would identify a good weapon from a weapon of quality, particularly as you have no skill in the use of the weapon in question.
Ah, but I DO know quality blacksmithing work. I can be extremely obsessive about things like this. I can be quite a perfectionist. If it isn't a 51 but not a failure, he isn't happy with the blacksmithing.
(Wheedling, pleading tone of voice...) "Aw come on MJ, are you sure there are no bonuses for careful work????"
(If not, it's cool, really, I just hope you can imagine that as funny as I can.)
I am not understanding how the lock washers are supposed to accomplish your objective, unless you mean to bend them open sufficiently that they slide between each other.
Pretty much, yeah. My character is there, he's got access to the tools and stuff. Maybe he would know a better way to do it. Maybe there's a part he can find that I could never think of sitting here. Just with the knowledge that I have sitting here in my apartment, that sounds like a good place to start, although my character could have a million and one better ideas.
I had a household tool which extended and screwed open like what I'm describing. It had threads inside the handle. Maybe my character has access to something which would do that, I don't know. That's probably what I would look for if I can find it. I'm just saying from here, inside my apartment, the modified lock washers seem like as good a place to start as any.
Let me think on the collapsible vehicle for a minute.
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Can I get threads on the inside of the pipes? It was a toilet plunger, the handle extended telescopically, and there were threads inside which screwed it to the inside of the other handle piece. When collapsed, it screwed together at the bottom. I wouldn't install that, but can I get something like that here?
(Doing Therapy)
John, when you ask if something is a new use and I say i don't know why it would be, that's the cue for you to tell me what it is that is different about using it this time as compared with every previous time you used it. I did not say that it was not a new use; I said that I did not know any reason for it to be so. That might simply be because I don't remember the previous circumstances in which you used it so I don't see how this time is different. It does not mean it's not a new use.
You can certainly thread the inside of a pipe. My concern with this design is that it would not open with a snap of the wrist or something--you would need two hands to undo it. That, though, might be inherent in the twist design no matter how you do it, as you could not rely on it untwisting with a snap of the wrist.
There is a difference between quality blacksmithing work and a quality weapon. I'm sure you can recognize that a gun might be made of the best quality metal and wood with a well-oiled mechanism, and still be badly balanced and not shoot straight. You can also understand that someone with no skill in using guns but with skills in working with metal and wood and machine parts could make such a gun and not know it was a bad design. Many people make good violins but none rival Stradivarius. When we're talking about quality weapons, that's what we're talking about: the Stradivarius, the one that most professionals envy. O.K., the Stradivarius is the extreme version of this, but you can see that simply using all the right materials and copying the pattern is not going to mean you made a Stradivarius. (And for what it's worth, not all Stradivarius violins are equal in quality, although all those which survive are truly excellent.)
So without professional skill in weapon making you have no chance of making that kind of quality weapon, and without any skill in weapon use you have no chance of knowing that you've failed to do so.
--M. J. Young
Concerning the question of whether extra care in the manufacturing process will give you a better chance of success, I think the answer is yes, if you take a month to construct your device very carefully, honing and weighing and measuring each part individually to the perfect balance and tolerances, discarding parts that are less than the quality you want, you will gain bonuses in your chance of success.
--M. J. Young
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You can certainly thread the inside of a pipe. My concern with this design is that it would not open with a snap of the wrist or something--you would need two hands to undo it. That, though, might be inherent in the twist design no matter how you do it, as you could not rely on it untwisting with a snap of the wrist.
I'm not sure you're understanding what I'm saying. I'm not talking about carving threads onto the pipe itself. It would be a second piece, welded onto the pipe. The toilet plunger that I had extended, and there were two threaded pieces inside that meshed together. It would be taking the place of the rings I originally had in mind to hold the pieces together. I never saw what it looked like.
So without professional skill in weapon making you have no chance of making that kind of quality weapon, and without any skill in weapon use you have no chance of knowing that you've failed to do so.
When I made those two silver knives, you said that if I rolled a 51 or higher on making them, they would be weapons of quality. I have no skill at using knives, apart from kitchen use, and the first one was my fourth new use, if I recall correctly. What's the difference between that and this?
You said "Without professional skill in weapon making" You've also stated that if I focused on weapon making it would be 1@10. So, just to throw a monkey into the wrench, suppose I created a 1@10 weapon making skill, and had 4 new uses right now. (Tell me I can't put together 4 different weapons in an afternoon.) Would I then have 2@1 weapon making and be able to do it? And I could legitimately see my character doing that. As you said, he's got limited skill. He would want to make a few things he didn't really care much about before he tried to make something he would be trusting his life to. Just to throw a monkey into the wrench, could I do that?
I won't give you four new uses in an afternoon for creating four "different" weapons.
First, the weapons would have to be similar enough that they would fall into the same category of weaponmaking--blunt weapons and edged weapons do not fall into the same category.
Second, "new use" is based on the notion that you suddenly had some abrupt insight into the techniques involved in a skill and did something you had never previously imagined possible. Simply making four differently shaped blunt weapons probably does not give you a single "new use" by that understanding.
As to the knives, I obviously made an error in your favor at that time, and I won't withdraw it now.
--M. J. Young
I think I am not understanding how it is you want to fit the pieces together. I understand that they telescope. You are apparently thinking of welding lock washers inside each outer pipe and outside each inner pipe to act as stops, but how that works is not entirely clear to me.
--M. J. Young
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Regarding the four new uses, I wasn't expecting to get that, I just had to ask. No harm in asking, right?
I think I am not understanding how it is you want to fit the pieces together. I understand that they telescope. You are apparently thinking of welding lock washers inside each outer pipe and outside each inner pipe to act as stops, but how that works is not entirely clear to me.
What I'm looking for is threading. On that toilet plunger that I had, it was a set of threads on one piece, which connected to threads on the other piece. The smaller pipe ran through the threads on the larger pipe. A coil on the smaller pipe, colliding with and screwing into a coil inside the larger pipe. Does that make more sense? I sure hope so, because I'm not certain how I could explain it any better.
Don't forget the bonus blacksmithing prayer. It's not a new use, as far as I know (Unless doing it inside a different home counts as a new use) After that, get to building the baton.
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What all happened when I got to 2@1 boxing? I get 2 attacks per turn, and I hit harder? Is that it? Is there anything else that happens? How much harder do I hit? Any increase in defensive/offensive sit-mods? Just wondering. Do we have any choice in the matter? (Probably one you don't hear often) Could I perhaps take a penalty of some sort to gain something else? One attack per turn, for a doubled defensive sit-mod? (Who cares how often I get to attack, if they can't hit me at all?) Just curious how that works.
(Doing Therapy)
An amateur violin maker cannot build something comparable to a Stradivarius. A professional might. It's that simple.
When you reached 2@1 you got a damage category bonus and an attack multiplier bonus. "Hit harder" is oversimplifying. You are now better able to get around defenses and land the blow where and when you intended. Thus you can take advantage of the opponent moving into the blow, hit the vulnerable spot more precisely, and lose less of your energy to glancing blows.
I think I get what you're trying to do. I don't see how it would open without using both hands to unscrew it, and I don't see how it would lock without using both hands to screw it--and that goes in both directions.
From what I see, you would have to draw the short stick, twist it far enough counterclockwise to disconnect all the pieces, pull it to full length, and twist it counterclockwise to get the pieces to lock in the open position. Then to close it you would have to twist it clockwise, collapse it, and twist it clockwise more.
If there's some reason this is not true, let me know.
--M. J. Young
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An amateur violin maker cannot build something comparable to a Stradivarius. A professional might. It's that simple.
Not true. Professionals built the Titanic. Amateurs built The Ark. Not a serious argument, more for a laugh.
If there's some reason this is not true, let me know.
It's not true. Three pipes. Biggest outside pipe, threaded at the top, NOT at the bottom. Second middle pipe, threaded outside bottom, to mesh with threads inside first pipe. Second middle pipe, threaded inside top. Third, smallest pipe, threaded outside bottom. It only screws together and open when it's extended. The screwing to keep it closed is just a threading on the cap. That's a half twist. Once that is undone, it would flip open. To keep open when fully extended, a pull and twist would lock all of the threads together. And yeah, it would take both hands to screw open, but that would be kind of optional. I can still hit with it, whether it's screwed open or not.
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