I am watching The Incredible Hulk movie that just came out. Soldiers are shooting at him with everything from 9mm pistols, M-16 rifles, to 50 caliber machine guns. The bullets bounce off of him, and he keeps coming. However, you can see that it is hurting him. The lowest damage category is Annoying damage. However, this is, to him, Annoying PERIOD. They could (and do) fire thousands of rounds at him, and he would (and does) just get more and more angry. It would be like if an adult were getting repeatedly shot with a paintball gun.
Where in the rulebook does it talk about this? Even an Annoying weapon can kill, if you're hit with it enough times, but what about weapons that are simply annoying? Causes some pain, some discomfort, but no damage. Where in the rulebook is that covered?
And Adam, do us both a favor. You're going to say "Between pages 1 and 585" or something else. Don't.
Annoying, and the Hulk has (at least) a level 2 Damage Value. Half of zero is zero, and half of one rounded down is zero again.
Anything used as a weapon has a chance of doing damage to someone with a level 1 damage value as long as the attacker has at least a 51% chance of success - unless there are damage point penalties involved, in which case you need higher and higher chances of success to allow you to roll at least 51% damage after the penalty. Any attack form that comes out to Annoying with a -50 damage mod cannot do damage even with a 100% chance to hit.
I'd give The Incredible Hulk 3@10 in most body attributes. Certainly 3@10 strength, stamina and willpower. That's for sure.
Dude hits him with a 40 mm grenade launcher, and The Hulk just turns around and looks at him like "What the hell did you do that for?"
He's kind of how I imagine that Mother creature.
I'd go 3@, but I wouldn't go 3@10. If the Hulk arm-wrestled Godzilla, Godzilla would win. And then eat the Hulk.
Still, with a 3@ Stamina and Resistance, a 2@ Willpower, and quite possibly even a 2@ Density, you can bet he's plenty tough. Also don't forget several Bod 12@ invulnerability/resistance skills to help with the whole "bullets bounce off my hide" thing. (Can we say "damage category penalties," boys and girls?)
In the comic book, The Hulk also had an intense healing factor. Supposedly, Wolverine cut The Hulk with his claws, and the wounds healed before Wolverine was finished making the cuts. According to a friend of mine who is an avid comic book geek.
Indeed. I remember that comic book.
One point is that sometimes the explanations for things in comic books sway back and forth as times changes.
And Wodium, sure, 'zilla would eat the Hulk....and then the Hulk would get annoyed and punch a hole in 'zilla's stomach and get out. And then the Hulk would smash 'zilla down.
The Hulk is in most comic book confrontations a way more serious fighter than 'zilla.
And 'the madder he gets, the stronger he gets'....and hitting him makes him madder. There is a top out on that skill, but its high.
And Wodium, sure, 'zilla would eat the Hulk....and then the Hulk would get annoyed and punch a hole in 'zilla's stomach and get out. And then the Hulk would smash 'zilla down.
Yeah Eric, I was gonna say that exact same thing.
I don't care what anyone says, I say the Hulk would tear Superman limb from limb. And to prove it, I propose putting Lou Ferrigno and Brandon Routh in a boxing ring together......
Just an interesting trivia fact about Lou Ferrigno. He's something like 80% deaf. If you ever listen to him speak, he has a severe speech impediment. Between being mostly deaf, and all the noise he was making as The Incredible Hulk on the TV show, he couldn't hear his cues to stop smashing sets. At first, they tried to stop him, but who in their right mind is going to try to get in Lou Ferrigno's way? So after a while, they just kept rolling, and let him smash up sets. He would stop whenever he felt like it. A lot of the footage of Lou Ferrigno on the show was just unscripted footage of him going to town on the sets. (Hey, he had to work out his 'Roid Rage somehow!!!)
Also, him and Bill Bixby, who played the other half of the Hulk, became very close friends during the filming of that. (Can you just imagine, you're sitting in a bar, talking to some lady, a guy starts messing with you "Hey Lou, get over here, take care of this guy for me, will ya?") When Bill Bixby was diagnosed with cancer, Lou Ferrigno got back into the body building circuit to try to raise money for him. He got (I believe) 6th place in the Mr. Universe pageant, going against guys half his age. Not bad. So, he may be a Hulk, but he's a Hulk with a heart of gold.
The Hulk is one of those things that makes me wonder: how the hell do you DO that in Multiverser?
Is his transformation a Bod thing? Certainly seems like a Bod shapeshifting thing.
A Psi thing? Seems like it makes sense considering it's tied to his emotional state, but is it his emotions (Psi) or the chemical correlation (Bod) that does it?
A Tech thing? It DID happen after he was infused with gamma radiation from a high-tech bomb, after all.
A Bod metamorphosis with a Psionic trigger given to him by a Tech-bias botch? O.o; (Ok this one gives me a headache.)
And, A1Nut, I believe the Hulk is one of few characters who DID, in fact, give Superman a run for his money when they fought in the DC vs Marvel crossover arc. Superman won, but it was one for the history books.
It's a mutation, so I would say it's a bod based skill. Although I am far from being an expert on Multiverser mechanics.
And Osevens, Hulk fought Thor in one of the made for TV movies. Hulk won, but as you said, it was one for the history books.
I recall that the Hulk once survived a direct nuclear strike, but was massively injured. so, he obviously can't reduce whatever the exact value of ground 0 is low enough that it isn't a serious threat to him, though as i recall he was deliberatly lowering his power so the guy he was fighting would be vunerable to the nuclear strike instead of just absorbing the blast to get even more powerful than he had been, which was enough to beat the hulk in a fist-fight.
O'Sevens - The transformation is Bod. The fact that the trigger is emotional doesn't make it Psi; there are plenty of physical side effects of emotion (and in fact, I've seen it argued that it's the emotions that are the mental side effects of physiological responses). The way you attain a skill does not dictate what bias area that skill is, so it's not Tech either.
In the TV show, Dr. Banner got the power by experimenting with the hidden strength that all humans have. Where a person gets incredibly strong under emotional duress. (Now I'm wondering if there's anything in Multiverser for that)
I've seen a video of this phenomenon actually happening. A guy lifted a 1,500 pound helicopter to get his friend out of it, after the helicopter crashed upside down in a pond.